tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post6148057149810741060..comments2023-10-02T06:34:04.336-07:00Comments on Conservative Outrage: HanukkahABNPOPPAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13790538722982753032noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-77079157353033258562009-12-19T14:49:18.254-08:002009-12-19T14:49:18.254-08:00Harry, here is what you said:
" How should ...Harry, here is what you said:<br /><br />" How should we react to today's events? Let history be a guide."<br /><br />That's what I was responding to.Anne Rettenberg LCSWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08924529514196589677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-64400824292155074192009-12-18T13:48:23.432-08:002009-12-18T13:48:23.432-08:00The problem is that your comment has nothing to do...The problem is that your comment has nothing to do with why Jews celebrate the holidays we celebrate, which is what I thought we were discussing. And it has nothing to do with any of the comments I've made on this thread. Your comment is a non sequitur.Harryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12586139365230028783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-2678153187782205312009-12-18T09:21:45.490-08:002009-12-18T09:21:45.490-08:00Harry, "Generals are always fighting the last...Harry, "Generals are always fighting the last war" is an old saying among people who study HISTORY. I thought that was one of your favorite subjects! I believe the origin is from the World Wars, after the French built the Maginot Line after WWI to protect themselves from the Germans, and the Germans just rolled over the Maginot Line with their tanks during WWII. The Maginot Line was based on what would have worked in WWI.Anne Rettenberg LCSWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08924529514196589677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-74486686058785220122009-12-17T18:51:31.766-08:002009-12-17T18:51:31.766-08:00Elizabeth,
"generals are always fighting the ...Elizabeth,<br />"generals are always fighting the last war." is a rather cryptic comment. It leads me to believe that you didn't understand a word I said.Harryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12586139365230028783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-60032767621825475882009-12-17T06:01:31.797-08:002009-12-17T06:01:31.797-08:00Harry, remember the saying "generals are alwa...Harry, remember the saying "generals are always fighting the last war."<br /><br />I made a personal remark on why I'm not a Jew. To each his (or her) own. Christianity was based on forgiveness and mercy. Islam was based on discipline and obedience to God. Judaism was based on a belief in the specialness of the Jewish people as an elite, a belief which ensures minority status and tends to lead to conflict with others. <br /><br />I am intrigued by the fascination with Judaism on this supposedly Christian blog. I think that Judaism may appeal psychologically to the extreme right-wing and to fundamentalist Christians because these groups are the minority (like Jews) and therefore feel oppressed (like Jews). The far right and fundamentalist Christians feel embattled. They don't feel like they belong to one of the world's largest religions, because their beliefs are out of the mainstream even though most Americans identify as Christian. Thus the appeal of Judaism and the identification with the Jewish people.Anne Rettenberg LCSWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08924529514196589677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-54066062995544385892009-12-16T18:17:15.951-08:002009-12-16T18:17:15.951-08:00Spitfire, thanks for the edifying post.
Elizabet...Spitfire, thanks for the edifying post. <br /><br />Elizabeth, you comments are so condescending and patronizing they defy description.Subvethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13523683273450353313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-72824125133177424732009-12-16T17:51:14.855-08:002009-12-16T17:51:14.855-08:00Elizabeth,
Of course we Jews celebrate defeating o...Elizabeth,<br />Of course we Jews celebrate defeating our more numerous enemies. One of the things we are celebrating is our survival, which in my book is certainly worth celebrating. We are also passing down our history to our children, one of the more important obligations parents have toward their children. <br /><br />In addition to the knowledge gained, there are great lessons to be learned from the study of history, the most important being that there is nothing new under the sun. Everything that is happening today has happened numerous times in the past in many guises. How should we react to today's events? Let history be a guide.<br /><br />This next part may sound like an insult, but it really isn't. <br /><br />Ready?<br /><br />Here goes - <br /><br />If you studied more history and acquainted yourself with the facts behind today's events, you might not hold the views that you currently hold. And you wouldn't be a such a sucker for the "Palestinian cause" and every ridiculous anti-Israel charge that you believe.Harryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12586139365230028783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-76531609292679554202009-12-16T16:52:33.134-08:002009-12-16T16:52:33.134-08:00Elizabeth,
I find your comment disturbing and unf...Elizabeth,<br /><br />I find your comment disturbing and unflattering from a person as learned as yourself. It is not my policy to remove comments unless they are truly offensive or the language is obscene to the point editing would destroy the meaning of the commenter. You would be only the second comment I would have deleted since starting this post. After much consideration I have decided, as I do with all who comment here to let it stand. Conservative Outrage is for "open discussion" and your comment no matter how crude is "your" opinion.<br /><br />I will say on a personal note from me to you I find it beneath your dignity and would have expected better of you.<br /><br />Having said that, Shalom and my G-d Bless and keep you.<br /><br />PopsABNPOPPAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13790538722982753032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-86220533511081875702009-12-15T19:50:14.625-08:002009-12-15T19:50:14.625-08:00Pops,
Since I haven't heard anything, I was w...Pops,<br /><br />Since I haven't heard anything, I was wondering if you received my email on HannukaH?Most Rev. Gregorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07540256252670065874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-68046152223805170802009-12-15T19:08:14.654-08:002009-12-15T19:08:14.654-08:00Judaism is full of colorful holidays. They do most...Judaism is full of colorful holidays. They do mostly seem to focus on how the plucky Jews defeated their more numerous enemies however. I think I would find it tiring to dwell on battles from thousands of years ago; who cares anymore? However I do like potato latkes. Although some may find it hard to believe, I spent one Hannukah in Israel, where someone fed me a potato latke.Anne Rettenberg LCSWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08924529514196589677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-79132278756147987702009-12-14T23:43:36.470-08:002009-12-14T23:43:36.470-08:00OOps, Sorry Mighty Mom....got the wrong name. I...OOps, Sorry Mighty Mom....got the wrong name. I'm so sorry....but thank you anyway for the kind wishes. (I'm red faced now.....)Spitfirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10451851492732765143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-40360396057039314112009-12-14T23:41:53.039-08:002009-12-14T23:41:53.039-08:00Jungle Mom, thanks for the kind wishes. Praying yo...Jungle Mom, thanks for the kind wishes. Praying your holiday is blessed also with peace, joy and greater understanding of our Abba (Father.)<br /><br />Anders, I will not take up all of Pop's post here to argue with you. I went to your link, and you state you don't even recognize the B'rit Hadashah (New Testament)...so it appears you are of a more Pharisaical leaning than I am. (It appears from the website at your link you believe in being able to follow all 613 mitzvot to gain tzedakah.) I disagree with you. And that's my right to do. Just as you have the right to disagree with me. Toda for your response, even if we do agree to disagree. Shalom, and Hag Sameck.Spitfirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10451851492732765143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-81331570300258923212009-12-14T00:20:31.235-08:002009-12-14T00:20:31.235-08:00Anders,
you confuse me....are you trying to say th...Anders,<br />you confuse me....are you trying to say that Christianity doesn't have Jewish roots??<br /><br />Cuz, last I checked....Jesus was a devout Jew.MightyMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02563721884001643857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-33377471586857727342009-12-14T00:18:46.130-08:002009-12-14T00:18:46.130-08:00To Spitfire:
A good week
A week of Peace
May Happ...To Spitfire:<br /><br />A good week<br />A week of Peace<br />May Happiness<br />And Joy Increase!!!<br /><br /><br />thanks for the insight.MightyMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02563721884001643857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-4890136949351299632009-12-12T14:44:40.139-08:002009-12-12T14:44:40.139-08:00Anders,
Thank you for your comments. All who wor...Anders,<br /><br />Thank you for your comments. All who worship G-d and those who don't are welcome at Conservative Outrage. Perhaps you will consider becoming a follower and give us another viewpoint to examine on the variety of subjects we discuss.<br /><br />I will let the author of the post, Spitfire, comment regarding yours.<br /><br />Shalom,<br /><br />PopsABNPOPPAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13790538722982753032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1973889858777720002.post-12443690549036689942009-12-12T05:17:29.153-08:002009-12-12T05:17:29.153-08:00You quoted: “Hebrew4Christians, they have a great ...You quoted: “Hebrew4Christians, they have a great sight to find out more about Christianity's Jewish roots. ”<br /><br />In the Christian “NT” it is written about “salvation in faith in Jesus”. So let’s examine if that is compatible with Torah, which the term “Christianity’s [le-havdil] Jewish roots” indicate.<br /><br />How to live in order to enable the Creator in His loving kindness to provide His foregivness is outlined in the Jewish Bible ; and was also taught by the first century Ribi Yehoshua from Nazareth (the Mashiakh; the Messiah). <br /><br />The Jewish Bible – for example Yekhëzqeil (Hezekiel) 18 – promises foregivness to those and only those who do their sincerest to keep Torah. The Creator cannot lie and He does not change (Malakhi 3:6)! According to Tehilim (“Psalms”) 103 the Creator gives his foregivness to those who do their sincerest to keep His berit (“covenant”; the pre-conditions to be included in the berit is according to the Jewish Bible to do ones sincerest to keep Torah).<br /><br />That is the Torah-view of foregiveness.<br /><br />You will find Ribi Yehoshuas teachings here: <a href="http://www.netzarim.co.il" rel="nofollow">Netzarim</a><br /><br />Anders BranderudAnders Branderudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12590420531095058999noreply@blogger.com